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| JACQUELINE GARCIA |
| AAFES Sale of Ammunition The Army and Air Force Exchange is selling small arms ammunition in their
retail department. Is DA Pam 385-64, paragraph
2-11 or other explosive safety standards applicable to
the Exchange’s sale of ammunition? Should an
explosive license be issued? Contributed by Mr. Thomas |
JACQUELINE GARCIA
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| The Army and Air Force Exchange is selling small arms ammunition in their
retail department. Is DA Pam 385-64, paragraph
2-11 or other explosive safety standards applicable to
the Exchange’s sale of ammunition? Should an
explosive license be issued? Contributed by Mr. Thomas | | | | | 5 | 3/28/2018 5:03 PM | 12/7/2021 10:48 AM | No | Share an Idea | 24.6037233479708 | 1 | | | | | | | | | |
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| JACQUELINE GARCIA |
| From Mr. Geis (Systems Eng, Eglin AFB): If you are familiar with the definitions and characteristics of explosives versus modern smokeless propellants like those used in small arms, there is much less risk to personnel or property from burning propellants than there is in igniting explosives. Explosives cause damage by shock and associated flame and heat. Propellants burn much slower and will make a lot of smoke if not contained in pressure vessels. The typical small arms cartridge or 1 lb. plastic jar of reloading propellant pose almost zero risk of explosion due to their design and chemical make up. A heated cartridge in a dept. store fire would expel its bullet at very low velocity due to the lack of a barrel to propel it, while the plastic container of modern smokeless propellant would cause a lot of smoke but have no explosive effect at all. No explosives licensed should be required. If you would like more information please reply, I would be glad to discuss or provide technical resources. |
JACQUELINE GARCIA
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| From Mr. Geis (Systems Eng, Eglin AFB): If you are familiar with the definitions and characteristics of explosives versus modern smokeless propellants like those used in small arms, there is much less risk to personnel or property from burning propellants than there is in igniting explosives. Explosives cause damage by shock and associated flame and heat. Propellants burn much slower and will make a lot of smoke if not contained in pressure vessels. The typical small arms cartridge or 1 lb. plastic jar of reloading propellant pose almost zero risk of explosion due to their design and chemical make up. A heated cartridge in a dept. store fire would expel its bullet at very low velocity due to the lack of a barrel to propel it, while the plastic container of modern smokeless propellant would cause a lot of smoke but have no explosive effect at all. No explosives licensed should be required. If you would like more information please reply, I would be glad to discuss or provide technical resources. | | JACQUELINE GARCIA | 35 | | 0 | 3/29/2018 1:39 PM | 3/29/2018 1:46 PM | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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Posted: 3/30/2018 8:53 AM | |  | |
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| Tom Coradeschi |
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Tom Coradeschi
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| ELLEN MERWITZ |
| Requirements of DA PAM 385-64 are applicable to Army installations. Paragraph 2-11 of DA PAM 385-64 requires retail stores to be managed and licensed similiar to an Arms Room. Requirements for installations of Other Services would be in their applicable Ammunition Safety regulations. |
ELLEN MERWITZ
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| Requirements of DA PAM 385-64 are applicable to Army installations. Paragraph 2-11 of DA PAM 385-64 requires retail stores to be managed and licensed similiar to an Arms Room. Requirements for installations of Other Services would be in their applicable Ammunition Safety regulations. | | JACQUELINE GARCIA | 35 | | 0 | 4/4/2018 3:57 PM | 4/4/2018 3:57 PM | | | | | | 7/12/2017 2:49 PM | | 1 | WILLIAM EWINGS | | | | |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:04 PM | |  | |
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| ROBERT CHENARD |
| DA Pam 385-64 Para 2-11 applies to Rod and Gun Clubs, which would not otherwise be regulated.
--> How did this get translated to include AAFES Sales, which gets federally licensed?
Where did the referenced document "AAFES Sale of
Ammunition -Explosives Safety Bulletin 2010" get filed? This link does not open the document...
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ROBERT CHENARD
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| DA Pam 385-64 Para 2-11 applies to Rod and Gun Clubs, which would not otherwise be regulated.
--> How did this get translated to include AAFES Sales, which gets federally licensed?
Where did the referenced document "AAFES Sale of
Ammunition -Explosives Safety Bulletin 2010" get filed? This link does not open the document...
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Posted: 12/7/2021 10:51 AM | |  | |
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| JACQUELINE GARCIA |
| I can not find a copy of the AAFES Sale of Ammunition 2010.
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JACQUELINE GARCIA
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| I can not find a copy of the AAFES Sale of Ammunition 2010.
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