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Is there a regulation or DA PAM that outlines who is authorized to shoot training munitions (e.g. not operational rounds)? We are planning a family day at the range IAW DA PAM 385-63, Chap. 2-3(b), but there's no mention of munitions. We can shoot on the range, we can use army weapons, but there's no provision that states that we can/can't use army-provided munitions in the army-provided weapons. I have a sinking feeling that shooting civilian-grade/procured munitions is not a good idea, but I need to find an AR that says civilians can use training munitions.
Andrew - I'm not sure what you mean by "training munitions". In general, for small arms, tactical ammo *is* training ammo (unless you're looking at SRTA or CCMCK). I think you'd be hard pressed to find an armorer or RSO who will allow folks to shoot anything other than Army provided ammunition from Army provided weapons. Too many chances (real or perceived) for something to go wrong.
My $0.02 on the topic.
There are MWR programs to use range and in some cases private firearms. Below is a link to one,
Every unit receives a certain amount of ammunition for training. I would imagine if the family day is being sponsored by the command for the firing of weapons, the ammo would come from the units training ammo allotment. Firing civilian ammo in military weapons could cause a malfunction and damage the weapon.
It has been almost 15 years ago since I was there, but Ft. Riley used to do something like this in conjunction with their annual Apple Fest activities that were held on post. They had SAW's set up alongside vendor booths with family members, to include kids, suited up in Kevlar and eye protection shooting belted 7.62MM blanks as well as blue ball grenades being thrown at a target in a designated cordoned off spot. I honestly can't remember if the training grenades were fuzed or not but seems like they were. I'd suggest reaching out to the Safety Office at Ft. Riley and asking them for info on how they managed this event as it was huge. Several thousand people in attendance. From a surveillance perspective I'd certainly not be comfortable with recommending units using COTS ammo in military weapons for an event like this. I'd also recommend clarifying what you mean by training munitions. Blank, CCMCK, i.e., paint rounds, etc. or actual LIVE rounds coming from the units training allocation. Good luck! I'd hate to be the guy submitting the risk acceptance!
Look in AMC-R 385-10, 13-10. This section talks about Civilian Visitors operating military Equipment.
Hope this helps.
Been a long time since I've seen an AMCR. Where are they kept these days? Google didn't get me anywhere...
Here is the AMC publication website: https://hqamc.aep.army.mil/gstaff/amcio/ia/r/p/Pages/AMC_Publications.aspx
I am sure I went to the AMC website at one time, but I could not find the publication. I did find the website, however.
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