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Reduced QD Magazines Inter Magazine distance

​TP-15 and the Reduced QD magazine guide describe the arcs for reduced QD magazines (like the CETASM and Advanced EOD ARMAG).  However, when I am siting these ARMAGS within the QD Arcs of a ASP, as an Exposed Site, do I calculate them as an AGM (K4.5 to ECM, for example)?  Or can I site them closer, like the HPM at K1.5?

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​TP-15 and the Reduced QD magazine guide describe the arcs for reduced QD magazines (like the CETASM and Advanced EOD ARMAG).  However, when I am siting these ARMAGS within the QD Arcs of a ASP, as an Exposed Site, do I calculate them as an AGM (K4.5 to ECM, for example)?  Or can I site them closer, like the HPM at K1.5?

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Posted: 4/26/2022 2:05 PM
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Hello, each special container represents a separate magazine design.  Based on Technical Paper 15, you should refer to the appropriate listing in Table AP1-4 for the specific container. 

"TABLE AP1-4. Table AP1-4 presents current data on magazines (earth-covered and aboveground) and containers with reduced news or reduced QD. Note that each line represents a separate magazine design."

While there is an older information paper, link below, that states 
"AE storage containers can be ES sited as an Aboveground Storage Magazine (AGM), which comes with lesser ES protection and greater Inhabited Building Distance (IBD) quantity distance (QD) requirements.

I would still ensure to contact the US Army Technical Center for Explosives Safety (USATCES) and use the specific reduced criteria for the specific container that is planned to be used.

https://safety.army.mil/Portals/0/Documents/ON-DUTY/EXPLOSIVESSAFETY/GUIDEBOOKS/Standard/REDUCED_ESQD_Storage_Unit_Guide.pdf?ver=2018-02-20-104400-240


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Hello, each special container represents a separate magazine design.  Based on Technical Paper 15, you should refer to the appropriate listing in Table AP1-4 for the specific container. 

"TABLE AP1-4. Table AP1-4 presents current data on magazines (earth-covered and aboveground) and containers with reduced news or reduced QD. Note that each line represents a separate magazine design."

While there is an older information paper, link below, that states 
"AE storage containers can be ES sited as an Aboveground Storage Magazine (AGM), which comes with lesser ES protection and greater Inhabited Building Distance (IBD) quantity distance (QD) requirements.

I would still ensure to contact the US Army Technical Center for Explosives Safety (USATCES) and use the specific reduced criteria for the specific container that is planned to be used.

https://safety.army.mil/Portals/0/Documents/ON-DUTY/EXPLOSIVESSAFETY/GUIDEBOOKS/Standard/REDUCED_ESQD_Storage_Unit_Guide.pdf?ver=2018-02-20-104400-240


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This must be sited as an AGM only. This is backed up by,  DESR ,V4.E5.20.1.1 Reduced QD magazines must be sited as AGM's , using the reducedQD distances established as part of the DDESB approval package for each typeof magazine.Backed up further by Reduced Explosives Safety Quantity Distance StorageInformation Paper Dated 8 March 2016. (Attached).BLUF: Utilizing the QD calculator tables, select the appropriate distancebased on your current scenario, meaning S, R, FB or FU or AGM Unbarricadedor Barricaded. Given the scenario K6 or K11 will apply.

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This must be sited as an AGM only. This is backed up by,  DESR ,V4.E5.20.1.1 Reduced QD magazines must be sited as AGM's , using the reducedQD distances established as part of the DDESB approval package for each typeof magazine.Backed up further by Reduced Explosives Safety Quantity Distance StorageInformation Paper Dated 8 March 2016. (Attached).BLUF: Utilizing the QD calculator tables, select the appropriate distancebased on your current scenario, meaning S, R, FB or FU or AGM Unbarricadedor Barricaded. Given the scenario K6 or K11 will apply.

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Posted: 5/9/2022 12:10 PM
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To get more expert help with this question contact AmmoHelp at: https://defenseammunitioncenter.org/index.php/lrtao/ammo-help

​The Defense Ammunition Center teaches the courses on this subject and is also the home of US Army Technical Center for Explosives Safety (USATCES).

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To get more expert help with this question contact AmmoHelp at: https://defenseammunitioncenter.org/index.php/lrtao/ammo-help

​The Defense Ammunition Center teaches the courses on this subject and is also the home of US Army Technical Center for Explosives Safety (USATCES).

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