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Started: 5/29/2020 1:56 PM
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What standard do we use when asked a question about explsoive safety in contruction?

​Here in Hawaii we are working a jiont project with the Navy constructing new Magazines.  We were asked a question about a buildings requirements.  We answered using the requirements of DA PAM 385-64.  USACE came back and stated: ​​ "The vriteria laid out in DA Pam 385-64 is no longer valid.  SDW are not approved for new contsruction using the criteria of the DA Pam."  If we do not use the DA Pam, what do we use, and what will licenses and inspections be based on.......Thanx, Ted

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​Here in Hawaii we are working a jiont project with the Navy constructing new Magazines.  We were asked a question about a buildings requirements.  We answered using the requirements of DA PAM 385-64.  USACE came back and stated: ​​ "The vriteria laid out in DA Pam 385-64 is no longer valid.  SDW are not approved for new contsruction using the criteria of the DA Pam."  If we do not use the DA Pam, what do we use, and what will licenses and inspections be based on.......Thanx, Ted

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Posted: 5/29/2020 2:23 PM
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Tom Coradeschi

If you haven't done so already, I'd hop over to the DDESB website pronto. That body will have to approve use of whatever you come up with, so getting their buy in on design prior to the fact will be a whole lot easier than getting approval after it's built. Standards, etc, are all on the web there.

https://denix.osd.mil/ddes/

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If you haven't done so already, I'd hop over to the DDESB website pronto. That body will have to approve use of whatever you come up with, so getting their buy in on design prior to the fact will be a whole lot easier than getting approval after it's built. Standards, etc, are all on the web there.

https://denix.osd.mil/ddes/

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Posted: 6/2/2020 8:53 AM
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JACQUELINE GARCIA

Mark Mentikov: We should be using the DDESB Technical Paper 15 Standard ECM Designs Approved for new construction.

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Mark Mentikov: We should be using the DDESB Technical Paper 15 Standard ECM Designs Approved for new construction.

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Posted: 6/2/2020 2:14 PM
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I just looked and TP-15 is not listed on the TP listing page, nor is it available through the search function.  Would that mean that it is no longer valid?  https://denix.osd.mil/ddes/ddes-technical-papers/
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I just looked and TP-15 is not listed on the TP listing page, nor is it available through the search function.  Would that mean that it is no longer valid?  https://denix.osd.mil/ddes/ddes-technical-papers/
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Posted: 6/2/2020 3:05 PM
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TP-15 can be found at https://www.wbdg.org/files/pdfs/ddesb_tp_15.pdf

Ammunition & Explosives Magazines - The purpose of this Building Type page is to assist in the planning and/or design of new Ammunition and Explosive (AE) storage magazines for the Department of Defense (DoD) by providing definitions, descriptions, requirements, and standards of drawings and specifications as available. https://www.wbdg.org/building-types/ammunition-explosive-magazines


This is the the Whole Building Design Guide website https://www.wbdg.org/


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TP-15 can be found at https://www.wbdg.org/files/pdfs/ddesb_tp_15.pdf

Ammunition & Explosives Magazines - The purpose of this Building Type page is to assist in the planning and/or design of new Ammunition and Explosive (AE) storage magazines for the Department of Defense (DoD) by providing definitions, descriptions, requirements, and standards of drawings and specifications as available. https://www.wbdg.org/building-types/ammunition-explosive-magazines


This is the the Whole Building Design Guide website https://www.wbdg.org/


THEODORE MCHUGH10906/2/2020 3:05 PM6/2/2020 3:05 PM
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Posted: 6/2/2020 3:10 PM
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That looks like a great resource! Also, on the DDESB site, if you navigate over to https://denix.osd.mil/ddes/explosives-safety-issuances, you should find DESR 6055.09. ​390 pages and probably more than you ever wanted to know...

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That looks like a great resource! Also, on the DDESB site, if you navigate over to https://denix.osd.mil/ddes/explosives-safety-issuances, you should find DESR 6055.09. ​390 pages and probably more than you ever wanted to know...

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Edited: 6/4/2020 4:34 PM
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Ted DDESB TP 15 REV 3 - Approved Protective Construction  Hope this helps.

TP-15 will not open in the CoP program - you must choose download to get a copy of the manual.

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Ted DDESB TP 15 REV 3 - Approved Protective Construction  Hope this helps.

TP-15 will not open in the CoP program - you must choose download to get a copy of the manual.

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6/2/2020 5:05 PM
Posted: 6/3/2020 4:58 PM
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CLAYTON LIHILIHI

My suggestion is to utilize your applicable ESOs

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My suggestion is to utilize your applicable ESOs

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