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Good afternoon,
I am looking for anyone who can tell me, is it possible to forecast DMSMS/Obsolescence without hiring or contracting out an entity that has a sotware program to do so? I am trying to see if we at the PM can start forecasting, without having to bring on an outside agency to pull reports for us!
I also am interested in joining the DoD WG Team Page, but I cannot find the area to register here.
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It's been my experience (15+ years as logistics engineer) that the cost associated with DMSMS forecasting cell as a product office task is cost prohibitive. I work in a product office in Aviation and Missile Command (AMCOM) and we have a service from AvMC Engineering that we use to manage our obsolesence management program. Its a much cheaper option that trying to put together the resources required to accomplish the task effectively and it's a government owned operation.
The U.S. Army Aviation and Missile Research, Development and Engineering Center's Obsolescence Engineering team created a system called the Multifunctional Obsolescence Resolution Environment tool-database. MORE is a government-owned engineering analytical obsolescence and DMSMS management information system, maintained by AMRDEC.
We provide the system tech data package with the indentured parts list and they utilize a massive database to track all hardware and monitor the manufacturers of the products. It works pretty well as long as we keep the TDP updated in their system. The challenge is that often times COTS items like chipsets or circuit card assemblies go end of life with little notice from industry and we have to scramble to resolve it.
Hello Grant - The SAE-STD-0016 is a commercial product - therfore it costs money to obtain and is not available for viewing or sharing with through a government site. There are any number of sites that will sell you access to the standard and I cannot recommend one over the other. You should check with your organization to see if they already have purchased a product to provide access, or whether there is funding available to purchase the standard.
Feel Free to contact me with questrions [email protected]
Good day,
We are currently putting a DMSMS team together and I am seeking advice in regard to what qualifications our team should have. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
Some additional recommendations on two specific SD-22 sections have more detail regarding your question. Section 3.3.2 shows how the credential courses apply to DMT members. Then SD-22 appendix F shows suggested courses beyond the credential program.
Hi Grant,
My initial thoughts are:
I am looking for a simple, 1 page, survey to send out to OEMs to capture their lifecycle intent on parts. Questions like: is the part at the end of it's lifecycle, how much longer does the OEM plan on manufacturing the part, etc.
Does anyone have one they would be willing to share?
Thanks.
Good morning Brian,
Just from experience with the Programs I have worked on we usually ask the following questions.
1. Are units still being manufactured.
2. Does the OEM/Supplier anticipate having repair capabilites for LRU/WRA through BLANK (Insert intended EOL for Platform)
3. Are there presently any internal components that are difficult to procure during the repair cycle?
4. Does your company actively track the bill of materials for DMS issues?
5. Would you like (Insert Company Name) to provide an annual DMS report after receipt of BOM?
These are just some of the questions that we ask and we always request access to BOM's however in most instances we don't get it due to intellectual property. Sometimes if it is another vendor that is doing the repairs other than the OEM we have been able to retrieve BOM's or partial BOM information with a break down of the components that they repaired within the LRU. Also, if you're working with a DPAS Rated Program I would be sure to include that within your survey, you would surprised how many suppliers over look a DX Rated Program. For any LRU's/WRA's that we get no feed back on we work with the Program Office to have meetings with the OEM to ensure that they are activley supporting/tracking components for DMSMS issues. Anyway hope this helps you and feel free to email me if you need any additional support.
Sincerely,
Derek Waters
DMSMS/SCRM
Aerospace and Defense Services
Vertex Aerospace LLC
Hi Brian, Can you please share your email so people can reach out to you? Or you can reach out to me directly at [email protected]. Thanks for posting!
Good day all,
I am currently building a DMS/MS program. We are developing Lexicon to use throughout the Coast Guard to hopefully build a standard framework. What I am requesting the community possibly help me with is vetting what I have developed. During my DAU training, I have found these terms but as I developed these terms, I have not been able to find the reference.
The terms are below:
OEM End of Production - A part of a larger system that is no longer manufactured by the original manufacturer.
Hi Grant! Thanks for using the discussion board to ask us this question. I've taken a preliminary look through some sources and also reached out to some SME's. However, I'm having some trouble finding your email, would you mind reaching out to me directly at [email protected] so I can connect you with some resources? Thanks! -V/R, Alex
Edit to add: I will provide an update with final responses to this post so the forum can benefit.
This section provides access to DMSMS related policy and guidance documention. To assist in locating information more easily, the documentation has been sorted into DoD, Services, DLA, Other Government, and Industry categories.
This area provides a listing of DMSMS related training that is available to assist in increasing knowledge and awareness.
DMSMS Achievement Awards
The DMSMS achievement awards recognize individuals and teams from the government who are most responsible for significant achievements in proactive DMSMS management and implementation. The awards are based on achievements in the following areas:
Award History
2022
2020-2021
2019
2018
2017
2016
This area contains miscellaneous documentation, presentations, and information that can assist in establishing and maintaining a proactive DMSMS strategy and program.
The Parts & Material Life Cycle Management Credential brings together 13 on-line training (OLT) courses and supporting resources to offer a comprehensive overview of DoD parts and material life cycle management. It is designed to provide learners an overarching understanding of the life cycle logistician’s responsibilities for planning, developing, and implementing all aspects of Parts and Material Life Cycle Management to include: Diminishing Manufacturing Source and Material Shortages (DMSMS), Root Cause Analysis, Supportability Analysis, Cybersecurity, and Additive Manufacturing. A credential scenario fill the gaps between the competencies aligned to Sustainment Engineering and the courses. A summative examination must be completed to demonstrate learning.
2021 DMSMS Awards- Lifetime- Damon Brown
DMSMS Achievement Award 2019
Award Citation for 2017 Team Achievement Award - Theater High Altitude Air Defense - THAAD
Announcement of 2016 DoD annual DMSMS awards.
Diminishing Manufacturing Sources and Material Shortages (DMSMS)/Obsolescence is defined as the loss or impending loss of manufacturers of items, suppliers of items or suppliers of raw material that occurs when manufacturers of items or raw material suppliers discontinue production. DMSMS may occur at any phase of the life cycle of a system and must be monitored down to the lowest repairable level of the system. DMSMS impacts have the potential to severely impact weapons systems cost, schedule, and performance. This is attributed to rapid changes in item or material technology, production support requirements, foreign source competition, federal environmental or safety requirements, and limited availability or increasing cost of items and raw material supplies. DMSMS problems are an increasing concern as weapon system service life increases and product life-cycle time decreases. The problem is further complicated by the reduction in the industrial base dedicated to military equipment. In the past, programs have predominantly addressed DMSMS issues through an independent reactionary process. This has lead to poor response times and escalating DMSMS costs for each program. This DMSMS SWP outlines how to create a proactive DMSMS Management Program that: Ensures that all parts and material to produce or repair the platform are available Reduces, or controls, Total Ownership Cost (TOC) Minimizes Total Life Cycle Systems Management (TLCSM) cost Eliminates, or at least minimizes, reactive DMSMS actions Evaluates design alternatives Provides for risk mitigation as it applies to DMSMS Evaluates more than one approach to resolve DMSMS issues Collects metrics to monitor process effectiveness NAVAIR’s Industrial & Logistics Maintenance Planning/Sustainment Department (AIR 6.7) is committed to delivering quality products to its customers and embracing continuous process improvement. In this regard, it is expected that all AIR 6.7 employees will use this SWP during system acquisition and will continuously look for opportunities for improvement of our processes and products. Use of this SWP by other logisticians is encouraged.
The Jan/Mar 2010 issue of the Defense Standardization Program (DSP) Journal features: New Synergies between Systems Engineering and DMSMS Counterfeit Parts Safeguards and Reporting Interagency Pilot Study Evolves to Building Network-Centric Supplier Cities Defense Standardization Program Journal Featuring DMSMS Reference Link: DSP Journal (http://www.dsp.dla.mil/Publications/DSP-Journal/)
DoDM 4245.15, Management of Dminishing Manufacturing Sources and Material Shortages