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DMSMS Knowledge Sharing Portal

The DMSMS Knowledge Sharing Portal (DKSP) is focused on being a non-biased one-stop provider of DMSMS related information, resources and material to empower the Department of Defense (DoD) community, both Organic and Industrial, to implement best practices for monitoring, tracking, resolving, and performing analytical logistic and engineering analysis related to obsolescence impacts.

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DMSMS Achievement Awards
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The DMSMS achievement awards recognize individuals and teams from the government who are most responsible for significant achievements in proactive DMSMS management and implementation. The awards are based on achievements in the following areas:

  • Exceptional DMSMS management
  • Significantly improved and quantifiable readiness levels
  • Substantial cost avoidance
  • Exceptional warfighter support related to or realized through mitigation of a DMSMS issue
  • Creation or implementation of a DMSMS best practice that increases supportability and availability of systems to the warfighter.

Award History

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2020-2021

2019

2018

2017

2016

2019 DMSMS Champion Award - Mr. Bill Kobren
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DMSMS Program Award Citation for Mr. Bill Kobren DMSMS Champion Award

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Policy and Guidance
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This section provides access to DMSMS related policy and guidance documention. To assist in locating information more easily, the documentation has been sorted into DoD, Services, DLA, Other Government, and Industry categories. 

DMSMS Training Courses
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This area provides a listing of DMSMS related training that is available to assist in increasing knowledge and awareness. 

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Forecasting DMSMS
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Good afternoon,

I am looking for anyone who can tell me, is it possible to forecast DMSMS/Obsolescence without hiring or contracting out an entity that has a sotware program to do so? I am trying to see if we at the PM can start forecasting, without having to bring on an outside agency to pull reports for us!

I also am interested in joining the DoD WG Team Page, but I cannot find the area to register here. 

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Content Author… October 5, 2022 - 04:05pm

Perhaps the Air Force Digital Transformation SharePoint site modeling tools​ can assist https://usaf.dps.mil/teams/afmcde 

Content Author… October 4, 2022 - 11:24am

It's been my experience (15+ years as logistics engineer) that the cost associated with DMSMS forecasting cell as a product office task is cost prohibitive.  I work in a product office in Aviation and Missile Command (AMCOM) and we have a service from AvMC Engineering that we use to manage our obsolesence management program.  Its a much cheaper option that trying to put together the resources required to accomplish the task effectively and it's a government owned operation.  

The U.S. Army Aviation and Missile Research, Development and Engineering Center's Obsolescence Engineering team created a system called the Multifunctional Obsolescence Resolution Environment tool-database. MORE is a government-owned engineering analytical obsolescence and DMSMS management information system, maintained by AMRDEC.

We provide the system tech data package with the indentured parts list and they utilize a massive database to track all hardware and monitor the manufacturers of the products.  It works pretty well as long as we keep the TDP updated in their system.  The challenge is that often times COTS items like chipsets or circuit card assemblies go end of life with little notice from industry and we have to scramble to resolve it.  

SAE STD-0016
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 Good day all, 

After looking through the SD-26 the SAE-STD-0016 DMSMS Management plan is called out a few times. When trying to find the SAE-STD-0016, all we can come up with is a pay site to view and download it. (sae.org included) Is this available for download within DAU for viewing. The link within the tools/documents area takes you to the sae.org site and ask for purchase. 

Very Respectully,

Grant Korte
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Content Author… August 29, 2022 - 04:18pm

Hello Grant - The SAE-STD-0016 is a commercial product - therfore it costs money to obtain and is not available for viewing or sharing with through a government site.  There are any number of sites that will sell you access to the standard and I cannot recommend one over the other.  You should check with your organization to see if they already have purchased a product to provide access, or whether there is funding available to purchase the standard.

Feel Free to contact me with questrions [email protected] ​

DMSMS qualifications
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Good day,

We are currently putting a DMSMS team together and I am seeking advice in regard to what qualifications our team should have. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

The team is currently working on the following:
PM Lvl 1
PM Lvl 2
LCL Lvl 1
LCL Lvl 2
CLCL 014
Very Respectfully,
Grant Korte

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Content Author… August 8, 2022 - 02:14pm

Some additional recommendations on  two specific SD-22 sections have more detail regarding your question.  Section 3.3.2 shows how the credential courses apply to DMT members.  Then SD-22 appendix F shows suggested courses beyond the credential program.

Content Author… August 8, 2022 - 01:21pm

Hi Grant,

My initial thoughts are:

Vendor Surveys
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I am looking for a simple, 1 page, survey to send out to OEMs to capture their lifecycle intent on parts.​  Questions like: is the part at the end of it's lifecycle, how much longer does the OEM plan on manufacturing the part, etc.

Does anyone have one they would be willing to share?

Thanks.

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Content Author… March 25, 2022 - 07:56am

​Good morning Brian, 

Just from experience with the Programs I have worked on we usually ask the following questions.

1. Are units still being manufactured.

2. Does the OEM/Supplier anticipate having repair capabilites for LRU/WRA through BLANK (Insert intended EOL for Platform)

3. Are there presently any internal components that are difficult to procure during the repair cycle?

4. Does your company actively track the bill of materials for DMS issues?

5. Would you like (Insert Company Name) to provide an annual DMS report after receipt of BOM?

These are just some of the questions that we ask and we always request access to BOM's however in most instances we don't get it due to intellectual property. Sometimes if it is another vendor that is doing the repairs other than the OEM we have been able to retrieve BOM's or partial BOM information with a break down of the components that they repaired within the LRU. Also, if you're working with a DPAS Rated Program I would be sure to include that within your survey, you would surprised how many suppliers over look a DX Rated Program. For any LRU's/WRA's that we get no feed back on we work with the Program Office to have meetings with the OEM to ensure that they are activley supporting/tracking components for DMSMS issues. Anyway hope this helps you and feel free to email me if you need any additional support.

Sincerely, 

Derek Waters

DMSMS/SCRM

Aerospace and Defense Services

Vertex Aerospace LLC

[email protected]


Content Author… February 10, 2022 - 04:00pm

Hi Brian, Can you please share your email so people can reach out to you? Or you can reach out to me directly at [email protected]. Thanks for posting!

DMS/MS Lexicon
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​Good day all, 

I am currently building a DMS/MS program. We are developing Lexicon to use throughout the Coast Guard to hopefully build a standard framework. What I am requesting the community possibly help me with is vetting what I have developed. During my DAU training, I have found these terms but as I developed these terms, I have not been able to find the reference.

The terms are below:

 OEM End of Production -  A part of a larger system that is no longer manufactured by the original manufacturer. ​

End of life (EOL) or End of sale (EOS) / End of Production​
Original manufacturers typically begin issuing updates regarding EOL in year 5. The original manufacturer will no longer be producing or selling this product, but third-party maintenance is available for most products.
OEM End Of Support Date –  ​OEM has identified as the date they will no longer support the Product​ 
When the OEM will no longer provide repair services, repair parts, firmware or software updates, cybersecurity patches, etc.​
End of service life or End of support EOSL / End OEM of Support Date​: At this point, the original manufacturer will start to issue EOSL updates. It may also stop issuing support. Now, the product is no longer sold by the manufacturer at all, there will be no more OS updates, and they do not renew support agreements.
Govt Defined Obsolete Part/System – ​
Most often occurs sometime after the OEM EOS Date, when the Government is unable to (afford to) ​
ensure the Product meets Operational Availability (AO), Reliability, or Maintainability requirements;​
A determination that the Product can no longer meet Operational, Functional and Non-functional Requirements: Interoperability, Compatibility (Interface), Security, Performance (bandwidth), etc.; ​
When the Government can no longer to afford to support the Product to meet AO or other Operational Requirements (e.g., RFDS PCBs increased 10x (from $4K to $46K), rendering it unaffordable to sustain).​​

When the LTB (Life Time Buy) the process for purchasing discontinued Components or Products (i.e., those no longer available from Flextronics, a Component Supplier or any other distribution channel) to span Product Life or Support Life requirements, as applicable, for that Component or Product
Thank you all.
Very Respectfully,
Grant

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Content Author… September 16, 2021 - 04:15pm

Hi Grant! Thanks for using the discussion board to ask us this question. I've taken a preliminary look through some sources and also reached out to some SME's. However, I'm having some trouble finding your email, would you mind reaching out to me directly at [email protected] so I can connect you with some resources? Thanks!  -V/R, Alex

Edit to add: I will provide an update with final responses to this post so the forum can benefit.

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DMSMS Achievement Awards

The DMSMS achievement awards recognize individuals and teams from the government who are most responsible for significant achievements in proactive DMSMS management and implementation. The awards are based on achievements in the following areas:

  • Exceptional DMSMS management
  • Significantly improved and quantifiable readiness levels
  • Substantial cost avoidance
  • Exceptional warfighter support related to or realized through mitigation of a DMSMS issue
  • Creation or implementation of a DMSMS best practice that increases supportability and availability of systems to the warfighter.

Award History

2022

2020-2021

2019

2018

2017

2016

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Policy and Guidance

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2019 DMSMS Champion Award - Mr. Bill Kobren
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DMSMS Program Award Citation for Mr. Bill Kobren DMSMS Champion Award

DMSMS Organic Manufacturing Capabilities - US Goverment
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Listing of US DoD and Other Government manufacturing and testing capabilitites that support DMSMS resolutions

NAVSEA S0300-BU-GYD-010, GIDEP Requirements Guide, April 2008
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GIDEP is a cooperative data exchange between government and industry participants for sharing and use of existing engineering and failure data. GIDEP provides a means to exchange a variety of data during the acquisition process and life cycle of systems and equipment that can be utilized to improve reliability and reduce the cost of ownership. The program provides a repository of quality and reliability data, coupled with information on diminishing manufacturing sources and materials shortages, and manufacturer’s product changes. NAVSEA S0300-BU-GYD-010, GIDEP Requirements Guide, April 2008

AFPD 63-1 Integrated Life Cycle Management 3 July 2012
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This Air Force Policy Directive (AFPD) provides an AF acquisition and sustainment integrated life cycle management (ILCM) framework for Air Force systems, subsystems, end-items, services and activities (referred to as programs throughout this document).  It applies to all Air Force military and civilian personnel; members of the Air Force Reserves; members of the air National Guard; and other individuals or organizations as required by binding agreement or obligation with the Department of the Air Force. This publication has been substantially revised and must be completely reviewed.  This AFPD consolidates publications and provides a life cycle integrated framework for acquisition and sustainment. .

Defense Standardization Program Journal
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Diminishing Manufacturing Sources and Material Shortages; New Synergies between Systems Engineering and DMSMS Counterfeit Parts Safeguards and Reporting; Interagency Pilot Study Evolves to Building Network-Centric Supplier Cities. (See also: Defense Standardization Program Journal recent issues and archives.) Defense Standardization Program Journal

FY23 DMSMS Metrics Worksheet
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Updates to cost tables to accommodate FY23 inflation factors. Cost avoidance is calculated by subtracting the cost of the implemented resolution of the proactively found DMSMS issue from the cost of the most likely resolution that would be implemented if the issue had not been found proactively.

2022 DMSMS Award Call for Nominations
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2022 DMSMS Award Call for Nominations

LOG 0660 Diminishing Manufacturing Sources and Material Shortages (DMSMS)- Executive Overview
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This course provides concise Diminishing Manufacturing Sources and Material Shortages (DMSMS) information for the Executive or Program Manager requiring an understanding of how DMSMS impacts their operations. DMSMS impacts multiple processes including reliability, maintainability, supply chain efficiency, funding, policy, procedure, and staffing. This course is tailored to offer the executive a perspective of management/supervisory actions necessary to enable effective DMSMS mitigation, thereby enhancing mission readiness, efficiency, and cost effectiveness. This one hour course is designed to empower the Manager through an understanding of the challenges and options to ensure proper establishment of an optimum proactive DMSMS team.

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